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| Wynci |
Nov 9 2006, 08:35 PM
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| Chrolo |
Jun 18 2010, 05:46 PM
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Well want it or not at some point his instincts should drive him to reproduce in some fashion. Unless those ants are really wacko the only ant that CAN reproduce is the queen. That´s the whole reason she is protected so well...no one can replace her. Problem is, her purpose is also to die after giving birth to the King. To me this is the undeniable argument that the King will have to produce some children (if need be with himself
That is what i argued in my previous post. Again: Seeing how the chimera ants supposedly started out the size of normal ants it seems logical that the previous King will at some point either turn into a Queen or give birth to at least one. My proof for this is the human sized Quen that started this mess. If her type started out as a small regular ant then obviously she must have retained at least parts of the DNA the previous generation gathered and put into the King. In turn we probably should expect a Queen that is possibly as powerful as Meryem at some point, possibly even several (more queens --> more chance for the survival of the next generation). And given that the previous Kings likely didn´t have Yupi´s or Pufu´s abilities the method of self reproduction (if that´s used) should work without splitting himself into pieces...somehow |
| Ammar |
Jun 20 2010, 07:58 PM
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Hi,
I have a question considering Nen, In Hunter X Hunter I noticed that the most powerful nen users are extremely fast. For example; When Gon fought with Gensuru, Gensuru was more powerful than Gon thus he was faster. and in the fight between Feiten and the ant queen they mentioned that the fight is extremely fast. And when Netero fought with the King it was an extremly fast battle, not to mention the reborn king when he went to Knuckle and Meleoron...etc. So does it mean that the more nen (power) you have the faster you become?? I am not talking about nen users that their specialty would be becoming faster, I mean normal or different nen users...I think you got the idea. |
| Gehad |
Jun 20 2010, 09:41 PM
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I don't think so , Ubo was strong physically & i didn't feel that he was that fast , though his reaction to the gun bullet was faster than normal but when you look at it , he's stronger than Kurapica Physically & Kurapica was faster than him , so i don't think that being a strong nen user or being strong in general has to do with speed .
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| Hungry Old Monk |
Jun 20 2010, 10:34 PM
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Well for me it's simple, having great speed will not make you a great Nen-user (look at Zitoh). But, if you want to become one of the strongest you must consider becoming really fast. It's just like with some RPG games. You just can't leave speed alone if you wanna become truly strong. You have to take it into consideration to become a well-rounded fighter. Sure, you may have insane strength, but what good is it if you can't hit the enemy? It's common sense to make yourself great in other areas, like accuracy and intelligence/wisdom, too. Just like in real life, if you want to be considered one of the best you have to excel in many areas. It's up to you if you want to excel in 1 or 2 areas, though.
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| Headhunter |
Jun 22 2010, 03:06 PM
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I was just thinking: Can't Meryem make his own children? He has shapeshifting (from Yupi) and cell-manipulating (from Pufu) capabilities. He could split himself into two, transform the other into a female, and manipulate the cells of the female form to make a female reproductive system. Considering those, can't he... screw his female half to make a new generation of Chimera Ants? Yekkkk... that so gross. I suspect the chimera antz king can't reproduce. If he can, supposely their species are the main world occupant for centuries ago. I also suspect, the king is only on last long for 1 generation. Unless, those small character antz born a potential Queen... But how?? Can be they evolved?? -------------------- ------'.---.-----''.-----------
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| Chrolo |
Jun 22 2010, 06:16 PM
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Just because THIS batch of chimera ants is close to world domination doesn´t mean all the other hives before them would have reached THIS level as well. If you catch these things before they can eat large number of humans and more importantly prevent them from getting Nen in the first place and finding out about it exterminating them would not be nearly as much of a problem as it is now. It´s just that THIS time we had a human sized queen that was lucky enough to land in an area where the human population was so utterly dumb that they abandoned all types of technology and hence abandoned all hopes of alerting an extermination team before the ants got way too strong. Just look at the condition the queen herself was in when she reached that place. She was wounded. Meaning someone or something tried to exterminate her before she could cause problems such as these.
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| Headhunter |
Jun 23 2010, 02:20 PM
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Chrolo:
You sound logical. But, I was suprised that the queen manage to survive those injury until delivering the antz king. She even breed a lots of grunts with her "condition"... It will be interesting if we have a better understanding of chimera antz history... -------------------- ------'.---.-----''.-----------
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| Chrolo |
Jun 23 2010, 05:21 PM
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Well no one said she had to REMAIN injured. The first thing she did was to sit down and start eating something easy for her to catch in her condition (fish i believe). That would be a slow process but ultimately it stands to reason that she could use that energy to heal herself up well enough to catch other small animals and begin breeding her first foot soldiers. Didn´t she actually relocate at some point because her initial hideout was too small for her purposes? Working her way up the food chain makes sense if she was almost killed before. Technically being human sized and an ant (can carry 10 times it´s own weight right?) she should have been able to prey on a lot bigger creatures than just small fish. Heck due to her ant-strength she should have been able to take down an unarmed human in 1 on 1.
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| Hungry Old Monk |
Jun 26 2010, 02:14 AM
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Well after she relocated Queen Ant was slightly pampered in a relatively safe place by strong grunts that no normal person could defeat. So for her to be healed is just a matter of time, especially without the help of strong hunters early on.
It's kinda weird to see how Chimera Ants resemble humans in that they are overcoming natural controls of population growth. Humans had their intelligence and technology. Soon Chimera Ants will have all that and much much more. But it's somehow a relief that some Chimera Ants could still be killed by non-Nen measures which doesn't require much technology. Look at how Leol was killed (carbon dioxide poisoning if I remembered correctly). Maybe Meryem could be killed in some similar way? |
| Headhunter |
Jun 28 2010, 10:02 AM
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King can be captured with combination of nen skill. For example, Defensive: knuckle & melron (to let king in debt / invisible) + shoot (to aquire king body part) + kurapica (to chain the king in nen-less condition)
Offence: Biske / Gon / Killua In additional, genei ryodan member multi skill will be promising too, like shank. I wonder, how far he can control the king?? It is important to neutralize king nen ability... Strategy wise as below: - shank to deploy an anthenna on the king to fully control him, - kurapica to capture / chain the king (in nen-less condition), - knuckle to make king in nen-debt, - shoot to steal king body part, - gon / biske / killua & etc... for further offence to weaken the king. -------------------- ------'.---.-----''.-----------
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| Gehad |
Jun 28 2010, 11:02 PM
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Kurapica can't use chain jail on ants that's one thing . The other thing is none of the mentioned nen users could keep up with the king in terms of speed .
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| Chrolo |
Jun 28 2010, 11:38 PM
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I don´t think he meant Chain Jail. I believe he is suggesting the use of Judgement Chain to impose Rules similar to the one on Kuroro. "Don´t use Nen and do not harm a human being" would effectively shut the King down though any ant (Royal Guards) can still cause havoc or provide help. Though one could wonder if a chain wrapped around his heart is all that risky given that he has access to Pufu´s power has he not? If he too can remodel his body as he pleases then getting his heart crushed is in itself not much of a problem provided he grows a new one.
I suppose it´s also telling that despite Headhunter´s argumentation Knuckle and Meleoron chose to flee rather than attempt a joint attack. Knuckle being forced to remain close to his target in order for Hakoware to work might have had something to do with that. The King is obviously fast enough that once he suspects an invisible opponent nearby he can just run around the room and hope to hit something. With the speed he displayed when he captured Knuckle and Meleoron that´s not improbable. |
| Hungry Old Monk |
Jun 29 2010, 04:25 AM
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The only strategy I see that can work against the King now is Meleoron's original plan with Gon: Make the two of them invisible and undetectable (most of the time, not everytime though) by using God's Accomplice and using Uber Gon's Jan Ken Guu to smash Meryem where it hurts the most. Hope for a OHKO, then grind Meryem's face to nothing. A problem is that Meryem could be tough enough defense-wise to withstand a Guu, plus there's this great possibility that the King could use Pufu's Beelzebub right after the first attack lands (if he's still conscious). But that will open up Meryem's core which may lead to some serious damage on him.
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| Headhunter |
Jun 29 2010, 01:22 PM
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I'm not a detailing guy when express my comment...
Also, koruro aquired nen ability "fun fun cloth" may capture the king too. It just a matter of tactic in place... I believe the antz king brute strength alone equivalent to advanced reinforcement nen user. So, this may result to kurapika chain might be not working as well. Maybe manipulation nen user ability will work as long they can control him. -------------------- ------'.---.-----''.-----------
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| peach |
Aug 17 2010, 09:01 AM
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Hi everyone, first post here! I've read and reread HxH a dozen or so times now but I always get time jumbled up... How much time has passed since the beginning of the series to the current chapter? More specifically, how much time has passed in each arc?
Like... Hunter Exam: 2 weeks? 3 weeks? "Saving" Killua from his Family: 1 month? Celestial Tower: ...6ish months? York Shin: ? Etcetera... I'm really bad at following this, so I'm curious to know if anyone else knows... Gon started off at 12, but he's at least 14 in the most recent chapter, right? Thanks all |
| Yota Syris |
Aug 17 2010, 12:46 PM
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Hmm, I'm going to approximate because it would take a lot of time to look up everything and make estimations.
Hunter Exam Arc seemed like 2 weeks at most (since exam 1 & 2 should've occured during the same day, exam 3 was 3 days, exam 4 was 6 days I believe, took a day to reach exam 5 and that probably spanned for 1 day) Killua's Home was a month because of the training Celestial Tower was about half a year because of nen training York Shin seemed like only 2 weeks at the most, but I'm thinking 1 week Greed Island was around 5-7 months since a full year should've passed by then The Chimera Ant Arc I think in it's current place, only 2 months I think have passed at the most since there was that period where Gon could've perform nen for a month. Gon and Killua should both only be 13, or even still 12 since they both stated in the beginning that they're both almost 12. -------------------- ![]() Yota's hatsu: Manipulation: Density Increase, Air Pressure Scroll to the middle Other hatsus: Transformation: Call of Heaven and Hell's Wrath Red Beam Materialization: Timmy Still Life Quick Change Reinforcement: Codename Kid Robot Emisson: God's Hand Create a HxH character myth! |
| peach |
Aug 17 2010, 04:13 PM
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Ooooh! Yeah, I suppose that makes sense -- I think less time passed in Greed Island than I realized. These little boys power up quickly!
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| Yota Syris |
Aug 18 2010, 07:39 AM
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According to Biske, they are beautiful rare gems just WAITING to be polished :3
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| mio7 |
Aug 26 2010, 05:53 AM
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heeeeey..im new here..i have a Questions:
how many pairs of scarlet eyes is in hxh? i read somwhere there is 37 of them?? i think the kurutas R more than that..maybe 200?!!..then why the spiders didnt take more than 37??? and why kuroro in york shin arc went after the fake eyes and not the other fake items.. and what the nostrads do when they found out that the eyes R fake?? very soooorry about my bad english..hope u R all understand what i just write.. |
| Cavaleiro Sagrado |
Aug 26 2010, 07:00 AM
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heeeeey..im new here..i have a Questions: how many pairs of scarlet eyes is in hxh? i read somwhere there is 37 of them?? i think the kurutas R more than that..maybe 200?!!..then why the spiders didnt take more than 37??? and why kuroro in york shin arc went after the fake eyes and not the other fake items.. and what the nostrads do when they found out that the eyes R fake?? very soooorry about my bad english..hope u R all understand what i just write.. Well, I don't know how many Kurata clan people there were. About the other questions, Kuroro was truly after Kurapika and I think there was no way the Nostrad know they were fake, that's my guess. -------------------- ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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